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Randy Joseph & Deva Hetrick

$100K Club Case Study

80% of prospects said yes. That was the problem.

A mother-daughter tax firm was saying yes to everyone, at prices set too low. They rebuilt their pricing and added $119,921 in one year.

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Randy Joseph, CPA & Deva Hetrick, EA

Mother-daughter tax advisory firm · Seattle
$900 quote
→
$1,600 quote

Same client type. Same work. One hot seat later, Deva put it on the record: “We quoted a client 1,600 that we would have probably quoted about 900 usually.” The client said yes.

Deva Hetrick and her mother Randy Joseph, owners of Joseph and Hetrick LLC, working together at a laptop

“If I’m getting everyone, then I’m pricing too low.”

— Randy Joseph, on a weekly progress review · $100K Club Winner

The Firm
Mother & Daughter
Randy built a 1,000-client firm once. Deva asked her to do it again, together.

The Niche
Stock Options
tax planning for employees paid in equity: ISOs, RSUs, ESPPs

The Award
$119,921
added in one year · the $100K Club award

Underpricing is the most expensive habit in accounting. Let’s look at yours.

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The Transformation

Before Dream Firms VS. After Dream Firms

Their own numbers, in their own words.

Before

80% yes

“We’re used to 80% of people just saying yes to us.” A close rate that high means the price is too low.

After

$4,000

Randy’s first mid-tier quote, delivered face to face on a video call. Accepted “within 24 hours.”

Verified

+$119,921

added in one year · the $100K Club award

Deva Hetrick and Randy Joseph with a team member around the conference table at Joseph and Hetrick LLC

The Partners

She built a 1,000-client firm. Her daughter asked her to do it again.

Randy Joseph started her first tax firm in downtown Seattle and grew it past 1,000 clients before selling it after more than 20 years. Then her daughter Deva, a former professional poker player with an art degree, asked her to pass the baton and teach her tax. They opened Joseph & Hetrick LLC as business partners, built around one specialty: the tax lives of employees paid in stock options and equity.

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In Their Own Words

“We Are Over Givers. But We Need To Be Paid For That.”

Randy and Deva on camera: the growth question they couldn’t answer, the pricing they had to unlearn, and 26 leads in a week.

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Behind The Breakthrough

The Full Story

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Press play: Deva Hetrick, EA, on the weekly progress review where she reported the $1,600 quote, in her own words.

Before Dream Firms

Joseph & Hetrick had everything a small firm is supposed to want. A clear specialty in stock-option taxes. A cloud-based setup clients liked. A mother and daughter who genuinely enjoyed the work. And a close rate most accountants would envy: roughly eight in ten prospects said yes.

That last number was the tell. Randy put the growth question plainly on camera: “How are we going to be able to grow? We don’t want to be gigantic, but we want to grow a little bit more.” Seven years of slow, organic growth on simple returns had built a nice firm. It had not built a profitable one.

“We’re used to 80% of people just saying yes to us in the past. Tyler’s telling us to be hoping for more like 30%. Otherwise, we’re not charging enough.”

Deva Hetrick, weekly progress review

Randy found Dream Firms the way many members do: through a CPA Academy webinar. Her words for what followed: “It’s been this amazing roller coaster ever since then. It like revolutionized our practice.”

The Three Moves

  1. 1
    They rebuilt the price list
    Dream Firms’ value ladder replaced one flat quote with tiers. Randy: “Through the program, I came to realize that we were really underpricing.” The first test came fast. A client they “would have probably quoted about 900” heard $1,600, and said yes. Then Randy quoted a stock-option client $4,000 on a video call, face to face: “They got back to me within 24 hours.”
  2. 2
    They said no to everyone outside the niche
    Deva, nine months in: “Finally pulled the trigger on 100% denying anyone who wasn’t super, super in our tiny, tiny little niche… it’s made our life a lot easier and we still have a ton of lead flow just in that niche.” The Dream 100 outreach paid off too. The owner of a stock-option education site on Randy’s list invited her onto his tax-season webinar panel. The audience: entirely people with stock options.
  3. 3
    They let Google do the prospecting
    The firm stacked Google reviews. Deva: “Now we’re like high ranking in Seattle, even with just like 15 reviews. And so last week, our highest sales week, we had like 26 leads.” Randy noticed something she had never seen in her career: “It’s May and we’re just getting all these leads all the time in our niche and this has just never happened before in May.”

The Result

Three months in, Deva reported “our biggest client acquisition week in firm history… we tripled our weekly goal.” A year in, the average new client was landing at roughly $1,600 against a $1,500 target, which she called “double what we were bringing people on at last year.”

“Our main win is just our revenue… our success for tax season, 40 something percent growth from the prior year, which was really big for me and my mom and just for my life.”

Deva Hetrick, weekly progress review after tax season

The $100K Club verification for that year: $119,921 added in one year. The $100K Club bar is $100,000 in new cash collected from one year to the next. They cleared it while working less: Deva took a full weekend off for the first time since joining, then two full weeks after tax season, with a team member covering the inbox.

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The Journey

From Over-Givers To The $100K Club, And Beyond

Every milestone below was said out loud on a recorded weekly progress review, or comes from Dream Firms’ $100K Club verification.

Month 1
New pricing goes live and it stings. “It’s been scary… that’s been really emotionally difficult for me to get a lot of no’s.” The no’s are the point.

Month 3
The fall’s no’s start coming back as yeses. Then “our biggest client acquisition week in firm history”: three times the weekly goal.

Month 4
Randy quotes $4,000 to a stock-option client, face to face on video. “They got back to me within 24 hours.”

Month 7
Leads keep arriving in the quiet season. “This has just never happened before in May.” Google is now the front door.

Month 9
The firm goes niche-only: every prospect outside stock-option tax gets referred out. Lead flow holds. Life gets easier.

Month 12
Average new client lands near $1,600 against a $1,500 target: “double what we were bringing people on at last year.”

Month 19
Tax season closes at “40 something percent growth from the prior year.” Deva takes two full weeks off. The firm keeps running.

Month 24
$100K Club verification: $119,921 added in one year. Membership in the $100K Club.

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The Next Chapter
Listed with a broker at a price multiple six figures too low, they bring the sale to Dream Firms instead. An AI-assisted listing draws several qualified buyers within weeks. Randy retires. Deva merges into a culture-matched firm and keeps her craft.

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The Receipts

In Writing, In Public

Their public reviews and posts, exactly as written. Nothing staged. Nothing polished.

Randy Joseph's five-star Google review of Dream Firms: 'We have been able to raise our prices significantly and change the way that we talk to prospective clients… Basically just do what he says… And your business will be transformed.'
Deva Hetrick review card: 'Tyler's energy and passion to help you create the firm of your dreams is real and it's electric and it's contagious and it's effective.'
Deva Hetrick's Facebook post holding her Dream Firms welcome kit: 'Dream Firm Leader Checking In… Game On… let's go'

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Randy Joseph review card: 'He gives you so much more than you were ever expecting. The program helps you from A-to-Z… Basically just do what he says… And your firm will be transformed.'

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We have been able to raise our prices significantly and change the way that we talk to prospective clients. Basically just do what he says… And your business will be transformed.

Randy Joseph, CPA  ·  from her public Google review  ·  $100K Club Winner

The Why Behind The Win

What Made the Difference

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Pricing Is a Belief Before It’s a Number

An 80% close rate felt like success. It was a discount. Once the target became 30%, every no turned into evidence the price was finally right, and the yeses got bigger.

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A Niche Narrow Enough To Say No

Stock-option tax for employees paid in equity. Specific enough to rank for, valuable enough to command $4,000 quotes, and clear enough that referring everyone else out made life easier, not scarier.

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Reviews That Do the Prospecting

Fifteen Google reviews put a two-person firm at the top of Seattle searches. Twenty-six leads in a single week followed, in a niche, without paid ads.

Your niche. Your price. Your Google front door. Let’s map all three.

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The Next Chapter

The Firm Was Worth More Than They Were Told

Portraits of Randy Joseph, CPA, and Deva Hetrick, EA
Randy Joseph, CPA, and Deva Hetrick, EA. One retired. One kept her craft, with a team behind her.

The First Number

Most case studies end at the award. This one has a second act, because a firm built the Dream Firms way is worth more on the day you sell it.

When Randy’s retirement came into view, Randy and Deva did what most owners do: they listed the firm with a business broker. The valuation that came back was multiple six figures below what the firm would go on to command.

They brought the sale to Tyler S. Clark, Dream Firms’ co-founder. He knew what the previous four years had built: premium pricing, a tight stock-option niche, a fully virtual team, and a client list of exactly the people they wanted to serve. That is a different asset than a generalist tax practice, and it deserved a different price.

Dream Firms put AI to work on the listing itself, drawing out what made this firm unlike anything else for sale: the stock-option specialty, a virtual team a buyer anywhere could step into, and pricing that already matched the value delivered. The listing went out with that story attached. Within the first few weeks, several highly qualified buyers had expressed interest at the premium valuation.

“If we go back to four years ago, we would be selling our firm for only 25% of what we’re hoping to sell it for today, because we’ve doubled our revenue, first of all, and then now we’re valuing the sale at two times our annual revenue instead of one time… I mean, we almost kind of thought Tyler was full of it when he suggested that.”

Deva Hetrick, on camera during the sale process

Buyers saw the difference too. Deva again: “All the firms that are for sale are not virtual. They’re very much clunky and haven’t made that transition.” Theirs had. And it came with “a niche that we’re willing to train a buyer” on.

The Outcome

A purchase price above what they had first been told was possible. Randy retired. Deva merged the practice into a culture-matched firm where she keeps doing the work she loves, with a team behind her to carry what her mother used to.

From the $100K Club to a retirement on their own terms. Same system. Same firm. Finally priced right.

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The Program Behind The Result

The Create Your Dream Firm Program

Dream Firms is the only CPA firm growth program built specifically around expert positioning, niche content, and high-value client acquisition. Randy and Deva’s result isn’t an outlier. It’s the system working exactly as designed.

“We are over givers and I like that about us, but we need to be paid for that.”

— Randy Joseph, from the firm’s on-camera program review

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